PHOENIX 鈥 Democratic lawmakers are using Friday鈥檚 school shooting in Texas in a bid to get Gov. Doug Ducey to call lawmakers into special session to adopt new gun laws.
In separate letters to the Republican governor, House and Senate minority leaders said they are willing to provide the needed votes. All it would take, they said, is for Ducey to add some of the things they want to the package, such as mandatory background checks when weapons are sold at gun shows.
But Ducey appeared uninterested, saying Friday that he offered up what he called 鈥渃ommon-sense reforms鈥 which never made it into law. Ducey wants members of both parties 鈥渢o put politics aside and join in support,鈥 said his press aide Daniel Scarpinato.
Only thing is, it鈥檚 not just Democrats who refused to vote for Ducey鈥檚 proposal in the recently completed legislative session. Ducey lacked sufficient support from his own Republican majority for what the governor portrayed as the keystone of his package: Severe Threat Orders of Protection allowing family members, school administrators and roommates to ask courts to have people evaluated to see if they should be forced to surrender their weapons.
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Rep. Eddie Farnsworth, R-Gilbert, who chairs the House Judiciary Committee, said Friday he鈥檚 not sure that the STOP orders Ducey wants can ever be enacted in a way that he and fellow Republicans believe sufficiently protects individual rights.
What all that means is that, new school shooting or not, the chances for legislative action here in the near future are virtually nil unless one side or the other makes significant concessions.
The back-and-forth came just hours after nine students and a teacher were killed at a high school in Santa Fe, Texas, south of Houston. A 17-year-old was taken into custody.
鈥淧raying for the community at Santa Fe High School,鈥 the governor tweeted shortly after the attack.
鈥淕overnor, prayers are not enough,鈥 responded House Democratic leaders in their letter to him.
Rep. Randall Friese, D-Tucson, the assistant minority leader, told Capitol Media Services there鈥檚 a deal to be had. 鈥淲e put on the table what it would take to get us closer to joining him with his watered-down, NRA-vetted and approved piece of legislation that was, in fact, possibly counterproductive,鈥 he said. Democrats want some attempt to close what Friese called the 鈥渓oopholes鈥 of allowing weapons to be sold by individuals at gun shows without the same check federal firearms dealers must do to find out if a buyer is legally entitled to own a gun.
Friese said this works hand-in-hand with Ducey鈥檚 proposal for STOP orders. Anyone who a judge finds is a danger to self or others would not only have to forfeit weapons but be placed into a database that dealers check to see if someone is what the law calls a 鈥減rohibited possessor.鈥
鈥淭he first step in that is creating a system of comprehensive background checks and making sure these people, if there鈥檚 some reason that they fall out, they鈥檙e identified鈥 and precluded from completing a purchase at a gun show, Friese said.
Farnsworth countered, 鈥淭hat鈥檚 not a loophole. These are private sales. So the question is, should private sales be required to do background checks and take ID, and is it their burden to make sure a prohibited possessor doesn鈥檛 have a gun?鈥
Ducey, in an earlier interview, dismissed the Democrats鈥 contention that expanding background checks would secure their votes for the package.
鈥淭hey had an issue with school resource officers,鈥 he said, as they objected to having more people with access to weapons on campus, even police officers. 鈥淚鈥檓 someone who just believes someone who is trained in law enforcement inside a school is a good thing,鈥 Ducey said.
Farnsworth, who operates a charter school, would go a step beyond armed officers. 鈥淲e are foolish if we think that by putting background checks or closing the so-called loophole in gun shows that people are not going to still get on campuses and shoot children, because we鈥檝e made them gun-free zones,鈥 he said.
鈥淵ou can鈥檛 stop it. What you can do is you can meet force with force,鈥 with properly trained civilians,鈥 Farnsworth said.
As for Ducey鈥檚 proposed STOP orders, Friese and Democrats contend that the plan requires those seeking such orders to jump through too many hoops. They prefer what the Giffords gun-control group has proposed.
That organization faulted Ducey鈥檚 plan for requiring a court to have a minimum of two hearings and make three separate findings before suspending someone鈥檚 access to guns. The organization said it does not appear to give courts the ability to temporarily disarm someone who has made credible threats of violence motivated by hate or bigotry.
But Republicans contend that what Ducey proposed was overly broad.
鈥淲hat we can鈥檛 do is turn it into a witch hunt,鈥 Farnsworth said. 鈥淎nd we can鈥檛 take away constitutionally protected rights.鈥
That鈥檚 not a Second Amendment issue but goes to the ability of courts to have people locked into a mental health facility for up to 72 hours for an evaluation for something they have not done but only what they might do in the future.
鈥淣ow we鈥檝e gone from a civil action into what鈥檚 usually reserved for a criminal action because now the person has lost their liberty,鈥 Farnsworth said. 鈥淚t may be incarceration in a hospital, but it鈥檚 still incarceration. I鈥檓 not sure how to fix that.鈥
Friese, in pushing for something stricter than the GOP rejected, acknowledged that such a plan could have civil-rights implications.
鈥淵ou may not get the solution right the first time,鈥 he said. 鈥淏ut you have to start down that path.鈥
